Joseph

"The difference in the attitudes of those who were owners and those who only felt like employees was clear to him. “If you get a guy with some of his money in a company, he’s going to do better than people who are getting a salary and bonus based on the size of the company,” declared Joseph, delivering the Drexel exegesis. “. . . We wanted to finance companies of the future by picking guys who were going to be successful entrepreneurs, and our main discipline was getting them to have their money in the company. And we insisted on it.”"

"By 1980, soaring interest rates were already causing bondholders to suffer. So, in order to keep luring bond buyers into the market, Milken and Joseph came up with newfangled pieces of paper over the next several years. High-coupon, high-premium convertible bonds (if the related common stock declined, the high yield would offer significant downside protection). Bonds with warrants. Commodity-related bonds: four were exchangeable into silver, one into gold, two had returns related to the price of oil, and one had a coupon which would increase based on the volume of trading on the New York Stock Exchange."

"“I used to sit with a company and say, ‘What do you want?’ ” Joseph recalled. “I’ve got to give the investor the potential to earn the return that he thinks is fair for this package. But I can give him the return any way I want. I can give it to him by giving the money back sooner, or by giving him a higher interest rate, or by giving him more stock, or the stock cheaper. “ ‘Tell me the one thing that’s the least important to you, and if you give me control of one variable, there’s nothing we can’t do.’"

"In November 1983, Joseph, Milken and members of their respective teams met with Cavas Gobhai in a suite at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, next door to Drexel’s new Beverly Hills office, to engineer the quantum leap. As Joseph recalled that meeting, “We started by asking, ‘Where does our financing muscle really come into play?’ One thing that’s hard to finance is unfriendly acquisitions. You can’t finance them, because you can’t tell people you’re going to do the deal, and you don’t know if you’re going to need the money, and you don’t know how much money you’re going to need, because you may have to raise the price, and you don’t have access to the inside information, and a lot of people don’t like to get involved in unfriendly deals.”"

"Milken does not run with the herd. He is, said Joseph, “one of the greatest natural contra-thinkers I’ve ever seen. If you say, ‘It’s a nice day,’ he thinks about the fact that people think it’s a nice day, maybe it’s not nice somewhere else, maybe it’s not gonna be nice, compared to what, what do you mean, nice day? He really thinks that way. That is perfect for an investor, or a trader, to be a contra-thinker. It turns out it is perfect for a finance business, trying to figure out what’s going to happen in the future.”"

"the accountability factor to his entrepreneurial system of compensation in corporate finance. “More than most other firms, we understand that we’re a middleman in the marketplace,” Joseph claimed. “We have clients on both sides. And because Mike is so powerful, we have really been serious about that ongoing responsibility to buyers. It is a long-term approach to your business, instead of just do the deal, get the fee and get out of there. “If you do a deal here that goes bad, we’re the only firm that keeps you accountable down the road. You’ve gotta fix it. If you don’t try to fix it, I’ll kill you. If you try to fix it and do fix it, you’ll almost recover the ding. If you try to fix it real hard and don’t, you’ll recover some.”"

"By 1980, soaring interest rates were already causing bondholders to suffer. So, in order to keep luring bond buyers into the market, Milken and Joseph came up with newfangled pieces of paper over the next several years. High-coupon, high-premium convertible bonds (if the related common stock declined, the high yield would offer significant downside protection). Bonds with warrants. Commodity-related bonds: four were exchangeable into silver, one into gold, two had returns related to the price of oil, and one had a coupon which would increase based on the volume of trading on the New York Stock Exchange."

"the accountability factor to his entrepreneurial system of compensation in corporate finance. “More than most other firms, we understand that we’re a middleman in the marketplace,” Joseph claimed. “We have clients on both sides. And because Mike is so powerful, we have really been serious about that ongoing responsibility to buyers. It is a long-term approach to your business, instead of just do the deal, get the fee and get out of there. “If you do a deal here that goes bad, we’re the only firm that keeps you accountable down the road. You’ve gotta fix it. If you don’t try to fix it, I’ll kill you. If you try to fix it and do fix it, you’ll almost recover the ding. If you try to fix it real hard and don’t, you’ll recover some.”"

"In November 1983, Joseph, Milken and members of their respective teams met with Cavas Gobhai in a suite at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, next door to Drexel’s new Beverly Hills office, to engineer the quantum leap. As Joseph recalled that meeting, “We started by asking, ‘Where does our financing muscle really come into play?’ One thing that’s hard to finance is unfriendly acquisitions. You can’t finance them, because you can’t tell people you’re going to do the deal, and you don’t know if you’re going to need the money, and you don’t know how much money you’re going to need, because you may have to raise the price, and you don’t have access to the inside information, and a lot of people don’t like to get involved in unfriendly deals.”"

"“I used to sit with a company and say, ‘What do you want?’ ” Joseph recalled. “I’ve got to give the investor the potential to earn the return that he thinks is fair for this package. But I can give him the return any way I want. I can give it to him by giving the money back sooner, or by giving him a higher interest rate, or by giving him more stock, or the stock cheaper. “ ‘Tell me the one thing that’s the least important to you, and if you give me control of one variable, there’s nothing we can’t do.’"

"The difference in the attitudes of those who were owners and those who only felt like employees was clear to him. “If you get a guy with some of his money in a company, he’s going to do better than people who are getting a salary and bonus based on the size of the company,” declared Joseph, delivering the Drexel exegesis. “. . . We wanted to finance companies of the future by picking guys who were going to be successful entrepreneurs, and our main discipline was getting them to have their money in the company. And we insisted on it.”"

"Milken does not run with the herd. He is, said Joseph, “one of the greatest natural contra-thinkers I’ve ever seen. If you say, ‘It’s a nice day,’ he thinks about the fact that people think it’s a nice day, maybe it’s not nice somewhere else, maybe it’s not gonna be nice, compared to what, what do you mean, nice day? He really thinks that way. That is perfect for an investor, or a trader, to be a contra-thinker. It turns out it is perfect for a finance business, trying to figure out what’s going to happen in the future.”"

"‘In order to lead an army you have ceaselessly to attend to it, be ahead of the news, provide for everything.’ Napoleon to Joseph, April 1813"

"It was in the early Italian campaigns that Napoleon’s military philosophy and habits first became visible. He believed above all in the maintenance of strong esprit de corps. Although this combination of spirit and pride is by its nature intangible, he knew an army that had it could achieve wonders. ‘Remember it takes ten campaigns to create esprit de corps,’ he was to tell Joseph in 1807, ‘which can be destroyed in an instant.’83"

"‘Winning is not enough if one doesn’t take advantage of success.’ Napoleon to Joseph, November 1808"